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this evening with bill bratton, former police commissioner of new york city and los angeles. his new book is called "collaborate or perish. : reaching across the countries in a network world." >> the whole concept in new york city that chaed the revolutionary change in this city in the '90s was the idea of the broken windows philosophy. the idea that minor rules which had been neglected for 25 years in the city, aggressive begging, graffiti, once we began to pay attention to that, the tipping point that gladwell wrote about in his book occurred very rapidly. so you can reverse an epidemic once you find the right vaccine, if you will. and in new york that vaccine was police doing what police are supposedo do: enfoing te law constitutionally, compassionately, consistently. poor neighborhoods; rich neighborhoods. you do it the same all over. >> rose: pelosi and bratton when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: nancy pelosi is here. she is the minority leader of the house of representatives. this june m
federal courthouse where you are to. talk to george bratton who is a euro m.p. from the u.k. independence party live with us on the line from london victor not the first case of extradition to the u.s. that sparked controversy british businessman chris thompson was shipped off in february on charges of illegal shipping air defense batteries to be wrong what do you make of such cases. well mr copley square it was another alleged sting operation which are not allowed under english law. police forces i'm not allowed to do things like that and what concerns me about this is the procedure that's gone for a week now if essentially not just in relation to the u.s. in relation to europe but the european arrest warrant. extradition is now been reduced to. judicial surrender and is in fact legalized kidnapping in many cases i mean we've had some extraordinary cases in britain which mr type is one reflects a similar situation with the u.s. i courts can look at the evidence but he isn't allowed to challenge the evidence so his defense team a not allowed to say well it's not valid so it'
have a long way to go. >> reporter: bill bratton has run three major police departments, los angeles, new york city and boston. he knows well the symptom of a broken system and how to fix them. >> its leadership is sending signals that anything goes. and it will be those in the organization that are going to take advantage of that. >> a front line police officer, his or her most important current is the confidence of the public. >> john miller is here. will we see more of this? this is a trend that will continue because of brutality and civil rights violations? >> well, i mean, to state the obvious, 99% of police officers of course, 18,000 law enforcement agencies in the country go to work and do a great job every day. i think when you see 17 of these going, you might see more of them. that's the department department's posture on this which is we're going to get into these things. on the other hand, police departments, police chiefs may look at this trend and say, i need to clean up inside before they get here. >> is there ongoing conflict between the feds and locals say, you know,
transistor by walter bratton and after it came up in the junction transistor and then a host of other kinds of transistors, the transistor prophesies followed a gets -- after that a lot happened very quick succession. for example in 1954 which is the precursor for the panels today and communications and the intermission pherae, looking at the code and the capacity, communications satellites originally designed and begun at bell labs. the first was an eco satellite that was a passive satellite and then an active communications satellite and the language can of bell labs and the couple device which is really fundamental unit for the digital photography and the cell phones and it fueled the laser. a lot of the semiconductor temperature lasers came out which are still a central and every dvd player and it's a pretty big list. >> how does that happen to come out? what is the significance of the name and how did that matter the would lead to that trail of all those things you described? >> a little bit of history probably helps. bell labs was actually formed after the phone company ha
brother, david bratton. >> i haven't seen my brother in almost 27 years. so it was amazing just to see him. but i'm also reminded of how the system can railroad people if they don't have all the evidence. i'm reminded of that. >> october 1st, 1984, katherine fuller murdered in an alley off 8th and 8 streets northeast. katherine fuller mother of six robbed, beaten, sexually assaulted with a metal pole. the prosecution case based on testimony from witnesses like cliff yarborough, one of the convicted eight. at the trial, some 27 years ago, he gave a long videotaped statement about the murder. but today in court he said that was a lie. he said the cops made him do it. something his relatives suspected all along. >> when you saw him up on that stand today, what was your feeling? >> proud. because the truth is coming out and that's all, for 25 years, this is what we've been trying to do, get the truth out. >> reporter: on the stand cliff yarborough says detectives threw him around, hit his head on a table, and held him over a toilet to get him to talk. he said they spent hours rehearsing wh
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